what you meant was like, being nonbinary is a rejection of gender classes and there is no universal, shared experience of nb people, right? i just want to make sure i’m understanding you right. i’m nb so i feel like i should know more about this but obviously none of those people did either lol

antiandrogen:

yeah like i’ve said, i believe non-binary identity is an ideological stance against gender (which to be perfectly clear  is inherently oppressive). and i wish non-binary people would unify under this and embrace it because it’s the only real way to make an impact. being able to be genderqueer on facebook is fine and i’m sure that makes some people feel nice but at the end of the day that is not even going to make a dent in gender as a division of labor. it doesn’t threaten patriarchy materially. it’s an expression of individuality, it’s inherently rebellious, but i think that should be pushed BEYOND the frameworks that already exist, we should envision a world WITHOUT categories, where you can simply be whatever you are without having to create boundaries around it and solidify an “identity”. i don’t like the way that “identity” has become the source and summit of lgbt politics and i think we should do work to tackle sexism and heterosexism at their root: gender 

when i say that non-binary people are not a coherent class, what I am saying is that under patriarchy we are forced into roles. we don’t get to tell patriarchy “i don’t really like this role, can i make a new one?” we can try to live this on an individual level, absolutely, but at the end of the day we all have a relationship to patriarchy. an non-binary people as a whole do not have a similar relationship to patriarchy. “non-binary” is a MASSIVE umbrella term that contains within it an infinite number of experiences and identities by definition. whereas ALL women (a coherent class) are part of an oppressed class and ALL men (a coherent class) are the ruling class. obviously there are matrices of oppression that can color people’s experience of this hierarchy but as a general rule, patriarchy is men ruling over women. this is what makes men and women coherent classes. it’s not because men and women are more “”””””Valid”””””” or whatever the fuck, it’s because men and women were CREATED as classes. non-binary people were not part of that framework! that’s it! *clown vanishes*