accioharo:

olennawhitewyne:

I don’t think being an older woman in fandom is cringey but I do think there is a specific group that is cringey af that is often the target of this Fandom Mom discussion, and we should encourage more people to cringe at this shit: 

Married straight ladies in their 30s-40s who go into slash/yaoi 15 years ago and are specifically into the shit that’s full of rape (oh I’m sorry, “dubcon”), large age differences, other big power differentials, strict seme/uke roles, etc. And when they get a show that doesn’t have any of that shit like Yuri on Ice, insist on making it like that in their fanfiction. And then they constantly fucking talk about it in any fan chat like Discord servers, and whine and pitch a fit and even cry “discrimination” when actual LGBT people or teens or just anyone with good taste doesn’t want to constantly hear about their fetishy rape fic.

Like it’s one thing when teens who are still in their edgelord phase don’t understand why people don’t want to talk about rape fic all the time, but increasingly the people doing this in fanfiction-focused chatrooms I’ve been in are like… 30-something moms? And that’s deeply disturbing to me. If you really can’t understand why this isn’t treated as a normal topic of conversation that you can just assume people are up for and you’re raising children like… I cannot help but worry for those children. And that’s not even talking about the teens you’re influencing when you act like a Fandom Mom.

Also, if you’re that kind of person, you don’t get to look down your nose at 30-40-something housewives who like Fifty Shades because you are the fujoshi version of that. The exact analogue. Except worse, because at least most women who like Fifty Shades understand why they can’t just assume everyone else is constantly down to talk about Fifty Shades.

Yeah these are the fans that got into fandom twenty plus years ago and refuse to actually evolve and develop as a person with regard to their presence in it. 

They’re stuck in the past where, for some reason, there was more acceptance of fans getting off on stuff like rape, dubcon, porn w/ age gaps from hell, etc. They refuse to acknowledge that hey, maybe that wasn’t good, and instead cry censorship and oppression (even though no one is actually not allowing their stuff to be posted, as AO3 allows p much anything). They’re usually heterosexual, married, and mothers (which is like you said, so unnerving). 

When I expressed discomfort with this stuff as a teen who was just getting into fandom, I was generally told I wasn’t being ‘open minded’. This was so endlessly frustrating to me. And many of the same people saying that then are a lot of the same people doing this now, undoubtedly.