You are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender. That’s it. Aces aren’t LGBT.
I mean for one your forgetting a bit of that. Like the Q+.
Mod Bethany
The full acronym is LGBT.
I love me some ahistorical bullshit
The “full” acronym at one point was “GL”, after lesbians fought against male homosexuality being the “face” of the movement (i.e., the Alliance for Gay Artists (AGA), founded in 1982, was renamed the Alliance for Gay and Lesbian Artists shortly thereafter; and the Gay Activists Alliance never included “Lesbian” in their title).
The “full” acronym at another point was “LGB”, only after bisexual activists campaigned fiercely to be included, and is often still not even included in acronyms
The “full” acronym at yet another point was “LGBT”, only after trans activists campaigned fiercely to be included
Queer was added to the acronym after it was reclaimed and re-politicized by ACT UP off-shoot Queer Nation in the early 1990s. LGBTQ has been a thing since the 90s.
ONE Archives, which is the largest repository of LGBTQIA+ materials in the world and was founded by some of the principle members of the early (1950s-60s) homophile movement, which led to the gay rights movement post-Stonewall, uses the full acronym LGBTQ on their website and also freely uses the word “Queer” interchangeably.
As of 2014, NOW (National Organization for Women) agreed to switch to use of the full LGBTQIA acronym, and it likely isn’t the only large social rights organization to have done so
Many LGBTQ+ magazines use LGBTQ, including One (which has existed in some form since the 1950s) and The Advocate, use LGBTQ or LGBTQIA as the full acronym and regularly use “queer” as a phrase (and, in fact, some articles have welcomed asexual people and their narratives as part of the queer experience).
The acronym is constantly evolving. It’s not static. To claim otherwise is blatant ignorance. The modern-day LGBTQ+ community is a result of decades of political activism, social inclusion, and community outreach. It’s not a rigid structure that operates by a strict set of rules about who can and cannot join.
The full acronym is LGBT. Cishets don’t belong in the community. Aces aren’t inherently lgbt. We don’t want our oppressors in our community.
“we don’t want our oppressors in our community”
as if trans people don’t already have to deal with their oppressors (cis people) being in their community
as if LGBTQIA+ people of color don’t have to deal with LGBTQIA+ white people in the community
as if LBTQIA+ women don’t have to deal with GBTQIA+ men in the community
as if disabled LGBTQIA+ people don’t have to deal with able-bodied LGBTQIA+ people in the community
the LGBTQIA+ community is huge and consists of people with multiply-overlapping identities and privileges. we all (unless you’re a cis, able-bodied, wealthy, white gay man) have to deal with a member of our oppressing class in the LGBTQIA+ community
ETA: “Straightness” is a position of power. Ace people, even if they are in heterosexual relationships, do not necessarily perform “straightness” in ways that are acceptable to the Straight class.
Reblogging because osirisjones is completely hitting the nail on the head.
Look though, this is what discourse is: having decades of community history literally laid out and them COMPLETELY IGNORING IT to repeat the same brainwashed, faulty drivel over and over
Cishet aces don’t experience homphobia and/or transphobia, tho. And that’s what bonds all of us together. Sure an able bodied cis gay man has more privilege than my gay black nonbinary ass, but that privilege doesn’t override the fact that he still faces homophobia.
Are you absolutely sure of that. Before I came to understand that I identified as genderqueer I was considered a cishet ace. And let me tell you, the amount of times I was bullied, or told that I just hadn’t been fucked properly, or that I was just asking for attention are insane. I’m sure that there are many Asexual people out there who have gone through the same. So until you’ve walked a mile in OUR shoes shut the fuck up about what constitutes phobia. You don’t know our struggles just as we don’t necessarily know yours. LGBTQ+ is about inclusion and finding solidarity and those that have gone through the same things you have. You don’t get to decide who is accepted in our community.
Firstly, I’m ace. I don’t feel comfortable putting that on my social media, because I don’t want to have to explain that I’m hypersexual because of trauma in case some asshole (like you) comes at me sideways cause I wrote something sexual in a post.
Secondly, I’m gay (and nonbinary, but that’s not really that relevant right now). Do you know many times I’ve been asked how I know I’m gay if I’m a virgin?!?!?! Or how many times people have told me that I should at least try it with a girl before swearing them off?!?!?!?
Your experiences aren’t that different from mine, sis. I might have realized that I was SGA before I was ace, but it’s the same shit. The difference between us and cishet aces is that we experience this thing called Systemic Oppression for being LGBT. There’s literal laws in place (on top of societal prejudice, mind you) to pressure us into either being CisHet or dying.
Can you name for me any laws that specifically target ace/aro people?!?!?! Cause, ya know, our current administration is hell bent on literally dividing the community and have been attacking trans people since the jump.
Lady Jace Of The Fae 