can everyone on this site stop taking star wars so seriously? ive seen so much discourse and hate on my timeline it’s unbelievable. it’s literally a fucking fantasy soap opera where people fight with light up sticks and theres a lot of angst/side romances. stop comparing kylo ren to nazis and saying the movie is racist, leave the real life actors alone, and don’t bring politics into this. stop demonizing ships just because you don’t like it. people come onto tumblr and write predictions and metas and draw fan art because it’s FUN. star wars is for everyone to enjoy so sit your ass down and stop ruining the experience.
Exactly! The world’s favor thing to do right now is say “This person is hitler, this person is hitler, THESE ARE THE NEW NATZIS” Like no, this is fiction and we love it and you should be compassionate to other people regardless of whether you agree with them.
you’re a fucking Dumbass holy shit have you like…. ever even read anything about the films or the fucking first order. everything below is from the Wikipedia page about the first order
“Critics and fans have noted the use of imagery highly reminiscent of Nazi Germany for the First Order in The Force Awakens, including a sequence mimicking the 1935 Nazi propaganda film Triumph of the Will.”
“The Force Awakens writer/director J. J. Abrams said that the First Order is inspired by the theory of ODESSA, which involved SS officers allegedly fleeing to Argentina and other countries following World War II.”
“The formation of the First Order when the old Imperial remnants annexes the Centrist worlds (and the New Republic’s lack of reaction to this increasing threat) are apparently a reference to the real life inaction of the Western powers when Nazi Germany annexed Austria and the subsequent Munich Agreement letting Germany annex Sudetenland, both in 1938. According to Star Wars: The Force Awakens: The Visual Dictionary, a reference to this is in the name of the current Chancellor of the New Republic: “Lanever Villecham”, which is a play on words for “Neville Chamberlain” (La-nev-er Ville-Cham), Prime Minister of the United Kingdom in 1938, who famously proclaimed that giving the Nazis what they wanted in the Munich Agreement assured “peace in our time”. “
“don’t bring politics into it” y’all know that star wars has ALWAYS been politically charged and in many ways a political commentary, right???? the empire was based off faceless, fascist dictators and the whole POINT of the trilogy was to destroy them and free the galaxy from tyranny. it’s a revolution movie. it’s an anarchy movie. it is, at its core, political. it exists to send a political message that fascism will not be tolerated and will be met with resistance. you can’t tell me that both of you literally missed the entire fucking plot of the entire franchise. leia is a senator. that’s politics. leia, han, and luke are generals and commanders. that’s politics. they’re at war. politics. they’re at war against an authoritarian regime. that’s politics. palpatine is a warlord. that’s politics.
and in case 40 years ago people didn’t get it through their dense ass skulls that this franchise is about politics, behold! the prequels! the prequels are literally entirely about politics! padmé being elected queen and working against the trade federation? politics. palpatine becoming chancellor? politics. the relationship between the jedi and the republic senate? politics. the inner-hierarchy of the jedi council and the jedi order as a whole??? politics. democracy??? literally politics. padmé being elected as a senator and working in the senate to stave off war?? fucking politics. the clone wars?? queens it was a war over POLITICS are you starting to see the fucking pattern here???? the entire clone wars tv series??? that’s politics babe! palpatine manipulating both sides of the war to his own ends and rising as an authoritarian dictator??? politics. order 66, and the systematic genocide of the jedi???? POLITICS. the rise of the empire??? politics. “this is how liberty dies? with thunderous applause”??? that was a political statement.
rogue one????? a political film. the struggle within the rebel alliance to move past passive liberalism and take direct action??? politics. saw as a true anarchist??? politics. the creation of the death star as a tool for mass murder/genocide and a means for the empire to keep power???? politics.
so that brings us to the new trilogy. if you’re saying star wars isn’t political after all that then you have no idea what star wars is about. star wars is ABOUT rebels. it’s about radicals fighting against an oppressive empire. always has been, probably always will be.
the first order??? just like the empire, they’re literal fascists. the imagery of hux performing his speech emphatically in front of all the first order flags, surrounded by his loyal troops who salute him??? that’s literal nazi imagery, and they did it on PURPOSE. jj abrams knew it when he wrote it. domhnall gleeson knew it when he took the part and played the scene. he plays hux like the irredeemable piece of shit he is and makes sure in every interview that the whole world knows that he hates his character just as much as the audience does. everyone who was involved in the film knew it.
kylo is a part of that regime. he is a part of this authoritarian empire, and he chose to be a part of it willingly. by ignoring that, you’re losing the plot of the entire franchise, the vision of countless screenwriters, authors, artists, directors, crew-members, animators, and actors. you’re disrespecting their work and disrespecting the importance of the sociopolitical climate of star wars, which is what the entire franchise has always revolved around. revolution is political. tyranny is political. i don’t know how you managed to miss something so obvious or how you’re able to ignore it, but it’s a talent. congratulations, truly.
star wars is so much more than a “fantasy soap opera”. it’s a political statement about radical antifascist action and it always has been. don’t degrade the message of these films the same way you degrade rey and daisy, please.
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