wyrmlovingwyrm:

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ossuariies:

Whenever people are like “here are the garishly long femininity rituals rich white women had to endure in 18th century Europe” or whatever– I don’t care. All that tulle is from slaves. All that cotton is from slaves. The wealth that purchases the silk. The sugar from the sweets they serve at the ball. The indigo used to dye the fabrics. At my pettiest I think, “Serves you right all your wealth is built on slavery enjoy your fucking corset and tell your descendants to pay me reparations.”

this post is like… so fucked up. those rich white women were being habitually raped by their fathers and husbands, and the femininity rituals they were forced to perform made them physically ill! there’s a reason they were fainting all the time! non-slaves can still have horrible, barely endurable lives. honestly to even speak of a woman from the 1700s being “rich” is stretching the definition of the word, given that women largely couldnt own property, and were often considered the property of their husbands

Expecting non-white women to care about the very women that oppressed and abused their ancestors to such an extent that it affects them today is so fucking callous. “ Do they not care about us at all?” Like white women just like you haven’t participated in or completely ignored the struggles of non-white women for centuries, and excluded them entirely from the feminist movement! Like these discussions of the suffering white women faced hasn’t been discussed thoroughly and woc haven’t strongly contributed to improve the social lot of white women throughout history while white women excluded them all the while!

Also, how can you use “ habitually raped” to gain sympathy for white women in historical time periods when these same women a) raped male slaves b) punished the victims of their husband’s rape? Do you have any self awareness whatsoever?

You can cite deadly beauty expectations and habitual rape as the sufferings of white womanhood all the while black women were used as breeding stock just the same as white women, except they had far far less agency. Their children were sold off. They were forced to endure harsh labor. They were starved and beaten and enslaved. Non-white women and girls bore the brunt of sexual male violence because they were viewed as subhuman-what sexual violence they couldn’t inflict upon white women they inflicted upon non-white women.

Caring about both struggles means recognizing how white women hurt non-white people, especially women. It means listening rather than making the conversation about yourself and the struggles of people like you.

You going on to a post about somebody venting over how their voice as a black woman has been ignored in these discussions just to defend women who owned slaves and say they had it rough too, which no one is denying by discussing the victims of white womanhood, is the height of ignorance and racism.